From: Guy Thornley
Date: 03:27 on 24 Jan 2006
Subject: mutt.
You'd think that by 2006 that it would be OK to have the Fcc: of messages
set to either
(a) the folder of the message you reply to, or
(b) the current mail folder, if a new message
but nooo, not in mutt. Impossible. Using shell-fu to emit 'set record' hooks
for all the mailboxes is gay, since it doesnt work for IMAP.
The Genius of it, actually the simple Brilliance and Sheer Glory, is that
is implementing the \0, \1 ... regex match substitutions that *every*
reasonable scripting language has would fix it.
Blah. HATE.
-Q
From: David Champion Date: 05:29 on 24 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. * On 2006.01.23, in <20060124032706.GA15715@xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>, * "Guy Thornley" <guy@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > You'd think that by 2006 that it would be OK to have the Fcc: of messag= es > set to either >=20 > (a) the folder of the message you reply to, or > (b) the current mail folder, if a new message Not to rain out your f=EAte, but: Fcc: ^ > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i (You might need to upgrade for this to work. I think this feature was available only as a patch prior to 1.5.10, and since you haven't posted to any mutt mailing lists to ask about this devilish problem, you probably don't know about the patch.) > but nooo, not in mutt. Impossible. Using shell-fu to emit 'set record' = hooks > for all the mailboxes is gay, since it doesnt work for IMAP. Let's talk about what else is gay, please. I'd like to hear more about that. I expect it makes for good conversation over coffee and biscuits. > The Genius of it, actually the simple Brilliance and Sheer Glory, is th= at > is implementing the \0, \1 ... regex match substitutions that *every* > reasonable scripting language has would fix it. But mutt isn't a scripting language, nor has it one.... And how many mailers have regex matching at all, let alone with subexpression substitution? Let's keep our apples with apples. Now post what's *really* bugging you! Cause, you know, this wouldn't be that bad even if it were an actual problem. ... It's a funny thing about posting to a software hate list: you sometimes ring up people who are considerably involved in the things you hate. But that's ok, I've got no room to complain. I still hate CPAN.pm, for instance. And what use is a hate list if you have to mind everyone's feelings? Hi, Jarkko! --=20 -D. dgc@xxxxxxxx.xxx NSIT University of Chicago
From: Guy Thornley Date: 23:50 on 24 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. > Not to rain out your f?te, but: > Fcc: ^ > > > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i > > (You might need to upgrade for this to work. [snip] OMG. How *utterly* embarrassing!. I really am truely quite abashed. BTW, it worked without upgrading. There I was, combing the mutt manual for an hour to find out how to this, only I was reading the manual for wrong f'ing version. :o Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. (rather embarressed signoff..)
From: Rob Scovell Date: 00:57 on 25 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. We've all done stuff like this ... and don't believe anyone who says they haven't! For example, I am deeply into extreme OO Perl, Mason and the like. However, I messed up when asked to put PDF bookmarks into a PDF using PDF::API2. Now, Acrobat Reader calls these things Bookmarks. They show up in the Bookmark tab. Everyone calls them Bookmarks. But blow me down, if they're not 'really' called 'Outlines'. Why would you think they're called outlines unless you're a PDF geek/guru? Hates PDF 'outlines' ... The trouble is, even if you are a mega-hyper-geek and a guru in your field, there are things you need to just *work* without having to become a guru in that thing too. Now, I am a pretty experienced Unix programmer, but this is why I gave up on Linux when Max OS X came out. (Well not quite -- I waited until 10.2). I hates having to geek about to do things like burn CDs ... <Realises he's laying himself open to responses from Gnomophiles> Rob On 25/01/2006, at 12:50 PM, Guy Thornley wrote: >> Not to rain out your f?te, but: >> Fcc: ^ >> >> >>> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i >> >> (You might need to upgrade for this to work. > > [snip] > > OMG. How *utterly* embarrassing!. I really am truely quite abashed. > BTW, it > worked without upgrading. > > There I was, combing the mutt manual for an hour to find out how to > this, > only I was reading the manual for wrong f'ing version. :o > > Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. > > (rather embarressed signoff..) > --- Rob Scovell 7A Brooklyn Road Hamilton 2001 New Zealand NZ phone: 07 853 9143 UK phone: 0845 229 2290/7025
From: Michael Jinks Date: 19:00 on 25 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:57:57PM +1300, Rob Scovell wrote: > > (Well not quite -- I waited until 10.2). I hates having to geek about > to do things like burn CDs ... > > <Realises he's laying himself open to responses from Gnomophiles> nah, gnome doesn't help really. -j (gnomophile, LiGnUx twerp, desperately missing the OSX laptop i gave up when i switched jobs last week and the day and a half it took to get a working DVD player on my Gentoo laptop. but i hates OSX.)
From: David Champion Date: 05:09 on 25 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. * On 2006.01.24, in <20060124235003.GA25817@xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>, * "Guy Thornley" <guy@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > There I was, combing the mutt manual for an hour to find out how to this, > only I was reading the manual for wrong f'ing version. :o That's ok. I'm only a minor cast member in the mutt roadshow, but we're happy for real problems to be pointed out, so we can hardly discourage people from reporting things that seem to be problems. Honestly, the way the manuals are presented on the web page has been a source of problems more than once... so that's perhaps worthy of its own hate. hates-documentation?
From: Rob Scovell Date: 05:38 on 25 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. Nonexistent perldoc in CPAN modules ... ? On 25/01/2006, at 6:09 PM, David Champion wrote: > hates-documentation?
From: Bruce Richardson Date: 07:55 on 24 Jan 2006 Subject: Re: mutt. On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 04:27:06PM +1300, Guy Thornley wrote: > but nooo, not in mutt. Impossible. Using shell-fu to emit 'set record' ho= oks > for all the mailboxes is gay, since it doesnt work for IMAP. I do not believe that to be correct. I have never had any problems setting hooks to be triggered by IMAP folders, nor setting the=20 record parameter from them. http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/UseIMAP --=20 Bruce I am now a little wary of bananas.
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